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front view or foot-aim view at Midway
some of these checkpoints are better viewed from the
"foot-aim" view (in the line through heel and toe) than the Front view.
The other leg is often almost (or already) landed down
on the ground at the Midway point for the main pushing leg --
see more
detail.
When does the active pushing start? How much of the
time between Set-down and Midway is passive gliding?
see more below.
priority: B-
best observed in Foot-aim view. In the Midway and Finish phases it
is difficult to observe this accurately in the Front view.
Ankle-pronation is often criticized, but from a
perspective of physics it's more complicated: Usually bad for propulsive
work at Set-down, usually good for propulsive work at Midway and Finish (provided
that it is transmitted effectively thru the knee and hip to mass
of the upper body).
Most skaters seem to do it without conscious control
(or even in spite of conscious belief that pronation is bad) -- so doesn't seem
important to monitor it closely.
A higher proportion of the force is applied directly to
propulsion if the pronation move is made when the hip to ground-contact
line is more vertical -- so it's better to make the move earlier during
the main outward leg-push -- soon after Set-down in classic Single-push,
soon after Aim-switch in Double-push.
It's normal to observe the positive
ankle-pronation configuration already at Midway in the leg-push.
Key thing with it in video analysis is not to worry
about observing it at Midway or Finish of leg-push. Instead use the observation of
ankle-pronation as a reminder to check on stability of medial
hip-knee rotation (and hip-abduction) --
see details.
Typically fast skaters use more pronation at Midway and
Finish in
high-force situations (sprinting, climbing steep hills) and less pronation
at Midway and Finish in high-speed situations (cruising flat and gentle
terrain). I'm not sure what the physics or biomechanics is to explain
this difference.
Ski-skaters on snow (cross-country ski racers)
tend to use more medial knee-hip rotation and less ankle-pronation than
ice or inline speedskaters. The design of their boots (as of 2006) tends
to favor this. I'm not sure what the physics or biomechanics is to
explain this difference. In 2007 some elite ski-skaters (especially
sprinters) were starting to use lower-cut boots, which tend to better
enable ankle-pronation.
standard-form perceptual check
Ankle somewhat pronated at Midway and Finish is typical and good.
Some would say that a good perceptual check would be to
finish with no pronation. I fail to see what the benefit of educating
this perception would be.
Another idea might be that it's good to educate the
perception of exaggerated pronation.
simple Normal-push
Ankle somewhat pronated at Midway and Finish is typical and good
-- usually more pronation in high-force situations like sprinting or
climbing up a steep hill.
Double-push
Ankle somewhat pronated at Midway and Finish of main outward push
is typical and good.
Pronation at the finish of the inward push
would usually be bad for propulsive work.
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priority: C (or B for ski-skaters
on snow)
best observed in Foot-aim view.
The motions and positions of "medial hip-knee rotation"
with the knee in a flexion position is not talked about much.
"medial" hip rotation moves the kneecap toward
the inside toward the other leg.
"lateral" hip rotation moves the kneecap
toward the outside away from the other leg.
From a perspective of physics of skating it's usually:
-
bad for propulsive work at Set-down
-
good for propulsive work at Midway (provided that
it is transmitted effectively thru the hip-abduction muscles
to the mass of the upper body)
-
bad for propulsive Work at Finish (because it would
be a sign that knee is still in a flexion position -- which is bad
for the finish of the big Extension push)
Key difference between the roles of ankle-pronation and
medial hip-knee rotation is that ankle-pronation is definitely
compatible with full extension of the knee joint, while medial hip-knee
rotation is not compatible with full extension of the knee when
the foot is used for strong pushing in skating. It only works for
skating when the knee is in a flexion position.
So the hip-knee rotation move must be in the
medial sense (propulsive) in the early phase of the leg-push, then in
the lateral sense (anti-propulsive) in the later phase of the leg-push.
It can be net positive for propulsive Work because the effect is larger
when the leaning angle of the leg is small (close to vertical) and
smaller when the leg is tilted strongly. So the positive early phase
outweighs the negative later phase, and the result for the overall
stroke-cycle is positive.
Key thing with it in video analysis is not to worry
about observing it at Midway. Instead use the observation of medial
knee-hip rotation as a reminder to check on the stability of
hip-abduction (see knee hip
relative sideways motion) -- since it is frequently associated with
"wiggly" motion of the pushing hip sideways opposite from the pushing
knee.
Typically fast ice + inline speedskaters do not
show much medial knee-hip rotation at Midway, even though physics
suggests it should add propulsive Work. Perhaps their hip-abduction
muscles are already near their effective limit of Force transmission for
other reasons. Or perhaps it's that medial hip-knee rotation has
trickier physics than ankle-pronation, so they emphasize the simpler
move.
But elite racers skating snow in cross-country skiing
typically use medial knee-hip rotation a lot, and ankle-pronation less.
I'm not sure what the physics or biomechanics is to explain this
difference.
standard-form perceptual check
For ice + inline speedskaters: Straight line in
foot-aim view thru ankle + knee + hip. No medial hip-knee rotation.
For snow skaters: Substantial medial hip-knee rotation
at Midway of leg-push (but none at start of push). Knee in foot-aim view
should be obviously inside the line thru ankle + hip.
simple Normal-push
For ice + inline speedskaters: Either slight medial
hip-knee rotation or None is OK at Midway of leg-push
For snow skaters: Substantial medial hip-knee rotation
at Midway of leg-push (but none at start of push). Knee in foot-aim view
should be obviously inside the line thru ankle + hip.
Double-push
For ice + inline speedskaters: Either slight medial
hip-knee rotation or None is OK at Midway of main outward push.
Priority: A
No "wiggly" in the motion between Set-down and Midway:
Every joint moves at least as far sideways as the joint immediately
below it.
Physics: Newton's Third Law of action/reaction
says that forces always come in pairs, so the skater must manage both
"ends" of each pushing move. The obvious "end" is the transmission of
the push force thru bones and joints thru the foot externally against
the ground. It's fairly clear that if there's collapse or absorption of
force in some link between the pushing body part and the ground, there's
a lower amount of effective propulsive Work than could have been
obtained from that body part's pushing. Consistent "rigid" transmission
is good, inconsistent "wiggly" linkage is bad. But that's not the only
place to lose out on propulsive Work . . .
The other less-obvious "end" for the pushing move is
the transmission of the force to the mass of the skater's body which is
away from ground-contact. Each push needs something to push against.
The more mass gets started moving quicker away from the direction of
push toward the ground, the more to push against, so the higher the
force toward the ground.
Newton's Third Law says that both "ends" add to
propulsive Work. So failures and weaknesses in transmission of force for
either "end" of the pushing do reduce propulsive Work. So it's helpful
for video analysis to examine key links in the transmission chain.
This is trickier to observe than other video
checkpoints, because it requires comparing sideways distances in
different video frames from different times in the stroke-cycle. Doing
this reliably might require having an accurate way to measure
distances between two parts in the same frame, and record each measured
distance as a number -- but there might be a way to compare two
distances without measuring each of them as a scalar number.
Here's what to compare (and measure?) . . .
Motions from Set-down to Midway:
Above the hips it's different -- because with good
timing the shoulders (and hands if using arm-swing) should be moving
toward the new pushing leg at the time it is set down. So they cannot
just instantly be moving the other way. First they have to slow down and
stop -- and that's their contribution to giving the leg muscles more to
push against during the time between Set-down and Midway.
After they've stopped, then they start moving
in the other direction away from the push, but most of that should be
happening later, after Midway. So the sideways motion of the shoulders
(and arms) should be lagging behind the hips.
These same key observation points for "consistent"
transmission versus "wiggly" apply to all motion styles -- except that
with outward push in Double-push for the main outward push, substitute "Aim-switch" for
"Set-down"
For the inward push of Double-push substitute
"Maximum inward move of In-push" (or "Finish of In-push") for
"Midway", and note that all the directions are reversed: outward versus
inward.
If a higher part of the body moves sideways away from
the leg-push direction farther than the body part immediately
below it, it adds propulsive Work of its own -- beyond
transmitting work from moves of other body parts.
This is good provided that the
additional Work is transmitted to the upper body and down to the ground,
and that other moves are not "softened" in order to make that
transmission capacity available. A typical pitfall is that adding
sideways motion in one link is combined with subtracting it from or
absorbing it in another link.
priority: B
view: best observed in front view, not foot-aim view.
See discussion of different approaches to this move on
Finish page.
standard-form perceptual check
Pelvis should be level: both hips at the same height off the
ground.
simple Normal-push
Pelvis sideways configuration should likely be roughly level: both hips at
roughly the same height off the
ground.
But there should be motion toward tilting away
from the pushing leg.
Double-push
Pelvis sideways configuration should be roughly level: both hips at
roughly the same height off the ground; though pelvis might still
be tilted slightly toward the pushing leg.
Anyway it should be moving toward tilting away
from the pushing leg: non-pushing hip dropping lower.
priority: B (or A)
This is a priority B if the question is
between gaining power from a torso-shoulder side-swing move or not
gaining. It's priority A if the skater is actually losing power due to
mis-timing of torso-shoulder motion.
view: best observed in front view, not foot-aim view.
standard-form perceptual check
if practicing torso-shoulder side-swing style:
Position of shoulders should be definitely over to the side from the
hips, toward the side of the pushing leg. Ideally, the shoulders should
not be moving much sideways in either direction.
if practicing the "quiet upper body" style: Shoulders
centered over hips, chest facing straight forward.
simple Normal-push
Position of shoulders should be definitely over to the
side (relative to the hips), toward the side of the pushing leg.
Ideally, the shoulders should not be moving much sideways in either
direction.
Double-push
Midway thru the main outward push, the position of
shoulders should be definitely over to the side (relative to the hips),
toward the side of the pushing leg.
Perhaps the shoulders will still be moving toward the
side of the pushing leg, but that should be only the "follow through"
from the quickness of their move thru the Aim-switch phase, not
continuing the motion farther just to increase their relative sideways
position.
During most of the In-push, the shoulders
should definitely be moving toward the side of the pushing leg.
priority: C
This is priority C if the question is
between gaining power from an arm-swing move or not
gaining. It's priority B if the skater is actually losing power due to
mis-timing of arm-swing motion.
view: best observed in front view, not foot-aim view.
If arm-swing is not being used to add propulsive Power,
then this observation can be whatever fits with or helps other aspects
of the skater's motion -- e.g. balance or rhythm.
If swinging the arms and hands from side to side is
being used to add propulsive Power, then the observations should
be like for the position and motion of torso + shoulders under
hips - torso-shoulder
relationship -- e.g. for simple Normal-push, arms roughly in front
of body, perhaps a little to one side -- but not way off to one side or
the other, and
moving definitely toward the set-down side.
If swinging the arms and hands forward and backward is
being used to add propulsive Power, then the observations should be
different from that.
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